tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post7965644342035328001..comments2023-07-29T08:18:56.915+01:00Comments on Altaclysmic: Welfare MothersBobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15475673092257340904noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-32615139315612545532013-10-02T16:31:15.189+01:002013-10-02T16:31:15.189+01:00Yes, you can get him on normal. He is the same no...Yes, you can get him on normal. He is the same normal or heroic however.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-90530609057065906742013-09-27T21:48:59.566+01:002013-09-27T21:48:59.566+01:00Oh, didn't realize you'd moved off the leg...Oh, didn't realize you'd moved off the legendary questline at that point. Is it possible to get that extra boss on normal? I have that noodle cart starter quest on a few toons but I haven't gotten around to it yet, since it sounded like I only had to kill the end boss I figured I'd just solo the place on normal to get him down... wasn't aware of anything after that.<br /><br />Eh, don't answer that, I don't like spoilers. I'll give it a shot as planned and will see where it goes.<br /><br />@Grumpy, as for the faster legendary progression at this point, I'm all for it... Ordos kills have already slowed down significantly on my active server and I have a lot of toons that I'd like to run through him every week. The more people doing that fight on a weekly basis, the better. When other people getting legendaries makes my life easier, bring 'em on!Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-57858374060776613712013-09-27T19:50:18.692+01:002013-09-27T19:50:18.692+01:00@R
I can agree with the 496 things but I don'...@R<br /><br />I can agree with the 496 things but I don't consider them current level gear so even if they are purple they are not epics, in my mind at least. Epics in my mind start at current normal mode item level. So 553 is an epic item right at this moment in game, anything else is a catch up mechanic. Just my opinion of course.<br /><br />And we are talking about the noodle cart boss. After you beat the sha at the end you fight another boss after.<br /><br />@Bob<br /><br />Didn't even notice the random aggro thing. I thought I just accidentally pulled aggro off my pet and hit feign death when he attacked me. I will say he hits freaking hard, even at well over 500K life he almost took me out. I took the first few hits being he was almost dead and I figured I would just finish him and saw my life drop like a rock before I feigned.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-59570218349968333482013-09-27T19:37:42.283+01:002013-09-27T19:37:42.283+01:00I thought the legendary line was good. It require...I thought the legendary line was good. It required consistent playing to reward those that stayed active and for the most part kept you busy. Remember, it used to be 7K valor for that one part, not 3K like now. So it took a long time.<br /><br />That 7 week valor collecting, and horrible drop rates that saw me get 27 power before I had 10 wisdom and not get one runestone for 6 weeks in a row before they changed it that you will get at least one a week, meant I was basically working on my legendary from day 1 of release when I hit 90 to day one of 5.4 release when I bested the celestials in battle.<br /><br />It took nearly 1 full year of constant play, so hell yes, it was an active quest line that made someone earn their legendary.<br /><br />I disliked the PvP aspect of it of course as I too am not a PvPer but outside of that it was not bad otherwise even with the 7 week collection wait and the horrible drop rates.<br /><br />They made many changes to allow people to catch up, increased drop rates, no longer being able to get over 10 of a sigil as it will not give you the other, only 3K valor needed, etc, but it still is a long journey for someone that starts now.<br /><br />Do I dislike that someone else gets the "easy" trip compared to what I did? Maybe a little, but they still have to earn it, if anything being so far behind, the pressure is on them a lot more than it was ever on me as I was doing it as it came out and was always ahead of the curve, so to speak.<br /><br />I would not mind seeing a quest line of this magnitude in every expansion, not at all.<br /><br />And like I said, with all that work, never let anyone call it a welfare legendary. Even if you did all your gathering in LFR, you still worked your ass off for it.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-37697580713648558842013-09-27T18:29:00.878+01:002013-09-27T18:29:00.878+01:00I am curious if you think the Wrathion quest line ...I am curious if you think the Wrathion quest line was good or bad?<br /><br />Personally I dislike being forced to PvP for a PvE item. I don't mind PvP but it is nearly 2 years since I did a battleground. I am just going to be cannon fodder. Which is no fun for me and less fun my team mates.<br />Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15475673092257340904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-13710421470176252342013-09-27T18:23:23.931+01:002013-09-27T18:23:23.931+01:00R, the Jade Temple boss is for the Noodle Cart. I ...R, the Jade Temple boss is for the Noodle Cart. I missed the boat on this and everybody has already gone off and beat this boss in the first 2 days. Now it is down to solo or maybe one extra person unless you bring friends with you.<br /><br />I seem to remember that he drops aggro and goes for anybody he feels like destroying.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15475673092257340904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-30458363922566317212013-09-27T18:12:21.633+01:002013-09-27T18:12:21.633+01:00I'd be willing to concede that the i496 tokens...I'd be willing to concede that the i496 tokens from the Island are actually welfare epics... open a few chests and you'll have epics. Those are kind of the definition. Still, I think that term was coined back when epics were very rare, even for raiders. These days, all epics are welfare in comparison, just not based on the current paradigm. You know exactly what it takes to earn an epic, if you do it and get one, it's not welfare.<br /><br />Regarding the legendary, I did the Rogue legendary in Cat and to me, the cloak process has been, if anything, more involved. I quite enjoyed the Rogue questline, especially the challenge sections, and the cloak had similar challenges involved. Both also included collections over multiple weeks, the cloak just had more of them and took longer. Back in the old days getting a legendary required a lucky drop and a lucky roll. How is that in any way a legendary process? The process from Wrath to now is actually pretty similar... I don't think the cloak is any less legendary than anything else that's come before it.<br /><br />What extra boss are you guys talking about? I have the cloak and I don't recall a Jade Serpent extra boss... may have just forgotten, though.Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5003106972062679804.post-19252080559907766752013-09-27T17:18:27.025+01:002013-09-27T17:18:27.025+01:00I've always hated the term welfare epic and ha...I've always hated the term welfare epic and hate welfare legendary even more. People, even urban dictionary, apparently have no clue what welfare means.<br /><br />If I log in and there are epics in my mailbox, they are welfare. If I need to do something for them, they are not.<br /><br />Maybe, just maybe, I can get behind the idea of PvP epics being welfare, because you do not even need to win to get them. You get honor even when you lose and that is about as close to doing nothing as you can get in game.<br /><br />When people called valor gear welfare it always annoyed me. It takes 2+ week of grinding valor, maybe dealing with horrible groups in randoms, all to get one piece of gear. If that is not hard work, I don't know what is. Having a piece drop off a mob I was planning on killing anyway, now that is closer to the definition of welfare. Getting something for nothing being I was killing him anyway. Yet it is the raider that usually calls other things welfare gear, kind of odd when you consider raiding gear is as close to welfare as PvE gear gets.<br /><br />Anyone that calls the legendary a welfare legendary needs to be taken out back and shot to death, they need to be removed from the gene pool. They should never be allowed to reproduce.<br /><br />Okay, a little to harsh maybe, but welfare my ass, that legendary is a lot of work, and waiting, and grinding, and luck with drops and when you get it take pride in the fact that you earned it. Earning something is the complete and total opposite of welfare.<br /><br />The jade serpent extra boss might give you fits with your gear. It does a fair deal of damage, bring a friend or two, or at least one to heal your pet and you should be fine. I did it yesterday and destroyed it, but I have a 543 item level. It was brute force for me.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.com